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R7

https://www.mics.ne....r7solutions.zip

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199r7 . Is excellent but ldid not try v5 and v6

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CruseEleganceRadio is not working since version 171v,CruseEleganceRadio171 is the last version that is working OK on my AMD Ryzen desktop PC. Newer releases, incl. latest 199r2, crash 10 - 30 seconds after playback is started, and takes audio service or/ and audio driver (sorry, no time to troubleshoot) down; PC has to be rebooted to be able to use any audio player again.

And another kind request, if I may... Could You add .ogg support to your players, please? This shouldn't be hard, because it is actually there already - bass libraries have full .ogg support, CruseEleganceRadio has absolutely no problems with .ogg streams playback, and even CruseBusterElegant can be tricked into .ogg audio file playback (simply rename or add .mp3 extension to any .ogg file, for example: test.ogg can't be opened in player, but if to rename (rename, NOT re-encode!) it to test.ogg.mp3 (or test.mp3), it will be played back with all the bells and whistles of CruseBuster). Thanks!

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A question for OryA and the community:

When a MC1XX rx was released..what exactly has changed. The hashes of the packages leaves no information about what have changed. Are there really small changes in code without changing the file size of MC199 for example?

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A question for OryA and the community:

When a MC1XX rx was released..what exactly has changed. The hashes of the packages leaves no information about what have changed. Are there really small changes in code without changing the file size of MC199 for example?

Let's compare the MC198 R6 and R7:
98ba19b383fad6af6214d5dfdd8dd597 *MajiorityCamisole198.exe vs. f9f33953d687d6f4d69b9d68e3bd5178 *MajiorityCamisole198.exe
The file sizes are the same.
If we compare the contents, we observe 683 differences.
For example, the first one in line 00088 looks like this - see attach.

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199.7 Further enhanced speed, fuller and more penetrating.

This time, after listening for 3 hours, there was a tearing murmur (even at a small volume), which may be a state of continued training

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Do you need to burn-in your cpu every time you start your OS? Or once is enough?

Does burn-in of one ES, read learn predefined patterns, affects switching to different ES?

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New technologies need to be digested, and after digested, they can be maintained

Training is always good

199.7 After training, the speed increased a little, listening to Wolfenmond , the drum beat is very crisp, but still expect more violent low frequency

Edited by darkblood1984, 15 May 2024 - 12:40 PM.

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Do you need to burn-in your cpu every time you start your OS? Or once is enough?

Does burn-in of one ES, read learn predefined patterns, affects switching to different ES?

1.) No, you don't as long as the CPU wasn't completely isolated from power the CPU won't 'forget' instantly what's inside it's pipelines and caches.

2.) No. Prior/different MC instructions will be forgotten by the CPU in a certain period. That's why OryA recommended to completely shut down you system and isolate the CPU ( it's enoug to pull the powercord an turn on your system, wait 1-5 minutes so the capacitors can decharge ) from power before trying a new MC/ES/LE release a year ot two ago. That's the fastest way a CPU will 'forget' but not necessary to do it so.

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Let's compare the MC198 R6 and R7:
98ba19b383fad6af6214d5dfdd8dd597 *MajiorityCamisole198.exe vs. f9f33953d687d6f4d69b9d68e3bd5178 *MajiorityCamisole198.exe
The file sizes are the same.
If we compare the contents, we observe 683 differences.
For example, the first one in line 00088 looks like this - see attach.

Perfect, thank you for your investigation. So the changes in sound are not 'placebo'.

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Perfect, thank you for your investigation. So the changes in sound are not 'placebo'.

Alas, that is not sufficient to draw that conclusion. The code could have changed and also the perceived change be a placebo effect.

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Alas, that is not sufficient to draw that conclusion. The code could have changed and also the perceived change be a placebo effect.

Due to the experience I ( and I guess the most of us ) have made with MC/LE/ES over the last yearswe can safely assume that even the smallest change in code has an effect on how your 'system' sounds.

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MC 199R8 now available.

https://www.mics.ne....r8solutions.zip

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Control Point: Apple iPad (9th gen), 64Gb storage, 3Gb RAM, JPLAY for iOS 1.0.18; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite, 128Gb storage, 4Gb RAM, Bubble UPnP 4.3.6;Dell Inspiron 15 5510 laptop (Windows 11 Professional (x64) Version 22H2 (build 22621.3155), Intel Core i7-11390H, 2.93 GHz, 512Gb KIOXIA M2 PCIe NVMe (RAID) SSD, 16Gb DDR4 3200 MHz RAM), Upplay 1.7.1.

Control and Audio-PCs: Asus Mini PC PN60, Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6 GHz, 250Gb Kingston A2000 M2 NVMe SSD and 8Gb DDR4 2400 MHz RAM.

OS: Windows Server 2019 (Standard Edition) in highly optimized Desktop mode, command prompt shell for initial setup after which Control and Audio-PCs run headless (monitor, keyboard and mouse disconnected).
Optimization:Audiophile Optimizer 3.0, MajiorityCamisole 201 (Control-PC and Audio-PC) via TrustedClean 3.1b-server on RAM Disk (MCLE Local folder) (for automated RAM Disk procedure and TC settings used see myGuide for Creating a RAM Disk that Uses TrustedClean (TC) 3.1b-server to Install and Run MajiorityCamisole)(revised 3 May 2024),Process Lasso Server Edition 14.0.3.16, additional Windows processes/services stopped via registry editor, task manager and a modified CAD DSK script (for complete optimization procedure see my Guide for Optimizing WS2019 in a Dual or Single PC JPLAY Femto-Based System)(revised 3 May 2024).

Renderer: JPLAY FEMTO 7.0D UPnP (Alternative version), Server: JPLAY FEMTO7.0D femtoServer, File Manager: Q-Dir 11.64.0.0, Library Manager: JRiver MC 32.0.6.
JPLAY Settings: Playing via: KS, Engine: ULTRAstream, Bitstream: Native, Bitperfect Volume: OFF, DAC Link: 1000, XtreamSize: 1000, Throttle: ON, Hibernate Mode: ON.

Equipment Configuration: Control Point Tablet/Laptop > WiFi > Control-PC > 1m SUPRA Cat 8 Ethernet Cable > Audio-PC > 3m Chord C-USB Cable > Rotel 1590C > 2m Mogami NEGLEX RCA to XLR cable with Neutrik connectors)> March Audio P501 Monoblocks with Purifi 1ET7040SA modules>DIY speaker cables (Tycab PVC doubly insulated 11 AWG OFC wire, TechFlex braid, Neotech Banana/Spade connectors)>Bryston PX-1 external crossovers >DIY speaker cables (as before)> Bryston Model T Signature Speakers. AC power filtered/cleaned via Thor A12BF Smart Power Board.

Music Storage: Main Library: 6Tb Seagate HDD/Hub+6Tb Seagate HDD (all connections via 0.5m Avencore Premium USB 3.0 cables); Backups(x2): as per Main Library.

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Hello,

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Hello,

Can anyone provide 199 R5 and 199 R6?

Thanks.

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199.8 At present, what I hear is that there is no noise, the resolution is reduced, the overall is relatively soft and lacks impact, not as bright as the previous version, listen for some time and see again

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I will burn in R8. When I switch back to R7, will my cpu remember all the "training" with him?

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I will burn in R8. When I switch back to R7, will my cpu remember all the "training" with him?

Well...I suspect the instructions of r7 and r8 are the same only some instruction values may have changed. So you can say 'there's nothing new to learn and nothing old to forget'. I assume switching back won't take much training time.

BTW: don't worry about if your cpu 'remembers' training or not. A CPU is like a brain with Dementia and Alzheimer...as long as the input is always the same and repeating it'll remeber, if something new comes it'll forget fast and can't remember what had happend the hour before...

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Well this fast dementia is the thing that I dont like. I like to compare different versions by fast switching songs. Dont know if cpus dementia is that fast.

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Always until 19:00 training results,199.8 speed has been significantly improved, which brings better timbre, stronger penetration and explosive power.

The unprecedented sense of speed, with some "uncanny Valley" effect, may be a little tense, but this is a good thing, if we continue to increase the speed significantly, the "uncanny Valley" feeling will disappear

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